discussion: ours for the moment
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salutant“What is it like, not knowing what comes next?”
hello! this is a place to talk about my fic ours for the moment. Thank you to everyone who has shown so much love and enthusiasm. Hearing your ideas make the story more alive for me as well <3
A lot of readers have mentioned that they would love to talk to someone, to share theories or just to yell and have someone yell back haha. So I want to use this space to connect people to people and spark conversations.
I won’t be taking part in this, and I’m muting notifications so feel free to go wild!!!
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hello this is klav's theory
Date: 15 October 2020 02:34 am (UTC)So after SC makes a personal sacrifice (cue Hanged Man tarot imagery) and erases himself from JH's life to protect him, SC succeeds in his quest to take down the big baddies. But it takes a while, let's say a few years, and afterwards he's no longer safe in SK. It's recommended that he flee the country before some other resentful chaebol tied up in the financial drama can enact revenge. Free of commitments, he goes to Japan and tracks down JH who is off eating the best meal of his life. He does not run into JH by accident, it is A Choice (cue the Lovers tarot imagery) as he's running on nothing but fumes of love and detective skills baby~!
I'm choosing to believe JH lied in the very last scene about not recognizing SC, in an effort not to trap him. JH is holding the sheets in that scene which could be an indication he's lying!
I also like the idea of SC tracking down JH and not telling him about their past together at all, for both of their safety. At that point, since JH has forgotten their initial relationship, it will seem like he's waiting for a future in which a man appears in his life who already knows everything about him and how he likes to be a loved from day 1--a reversal of their first time around and a more even playing field. Cue the long, happy overlap in time where they can know/love each other almost equally for many years. :))
Re: hello this is klav's theory
Date: 15 October 2020 05:04 am (UTC)“No, this is the last time,” Jeonghan says, “Every time is the last time. And when you go, I would have forgotten everything that has happened.”
I don't think they ever meet again. Seungcheol and Wonwoo's conversation made it seem like complying is the only thing to do because it's one man vs an entire system which has been established and thriving for years. Even if it's not exactly one man vs an entire system, it is still lopsided. I think he works to uproot the system for as long as he can before he either flees or dies. I don't see him fleeing really, so ;-;
Also,
“You still see him,” Jihoon finally states, “After all these years?”
Has Jeonghan had the best meal of his life already if it's been a few years since they've met?
/Surrender to circumstance/ summarizes what I think happens pretty well. Jeonghan doesn't remember, he could've been lying about having too much to drink? Seungcheol chooses to work against the corrupt system /martyrdom/, can erasing himself from Jeonghan's life be seen as something he felt mandated to do by the circumstances created by his choice? If he dies doing this, if he never comes back to Jeonghan, isn't all that in a way surrender to circumstance? The system is not going to be uprooted in a day, they're more powerful than he is. Are all his sacrifices and a life of uncertainty and danger ultimately /futile/? I choose to believe that the upright Hanged Man applies to the fic and reversed applies to what I think happens after hmmm
Re: hello this is klav's theory
Date: 16 October 2020 04:29 am (UTC)This part threw me off too. I was kind of unsure of the time they'd spent together and if that meant that the Japan trip already happened and if not, how far into the future it happens. Also Jihoon not /knowing/ how deep SC/JH relationship went despite Jihoon being so close to Han threw me off too. Why do you think Han told Jihoon to stay away? Was it to try and ease the pain of knowing he was about to lose him? Do you think Han tried to save him?
Re: hello this is klav's theory
Date: 16 October 2020 02:18 pm (UTC)“That it’s dangerous to know too much about the future,"
I also see this as a way to lessen his guilt. What if something he told Jihoon would be the very thing that gets him killed? He's going to die and Jeonghan cannot change that, but what if he's the cause of it, even though he doesn't mean to? So he asks Jihoon to not come back, lest one of his 'predictions' be the one piece of information that leads him to his death.
Re: hello this is klav's theory
Date: 12 May 2024 07:12 am (UTC)